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| Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: Trip Hawkins Killed the 3DO before it had a chance. |
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| What is it with people like Trip Hawkins, Bernie Stollard and Jack Tremeil killing things before they really have a chance to get going? Tremeil killed so much Atari stuff it is sick, Stollard with his vendetta against Sega Of America, a company he was president of killed the 32-X and Saturn in the us, and Trip just killed 3DO and is having a good hand in killing EA. The 3DO could have been such a big player in the industry, but damn, $700.00 for a videogame system! Why oh why did this happen? If the 3DO had been even $350.00 with a pack in game, it should have cleaned house as the system was so far ahead of it's time. More released games from Japan that were great like Tokio Autobahn, Snatcher, Doctor Hauzer, and Policenauts would have just been cool enough to really get things over with the fans. What went wrong here? Why do these guys do these kinds of things? It is a crying shame, especially since the 3DO was such a good system for it's time. About the only thing they really needed to qworry about was the Atari Jaguar, and the Tremeils were making sure that it really wasn't a threat, another injustice all together! :( I will never understand this sort of thing. |
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I have to disagree, i think Hawkins did a pretty good sales job promoting the format and getting games made. Look how many titles were released and compare it to Jaguar or CDI. Also by pulling strings with his old mates at EA some major titles appeared early on in the consoles life.
For me his biggest mistake was playing the "multi media device" card, the market wasnt ready for it and didnt understand it. |
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And not only that, the 3DO isn't even a very good media device(aside from, perhaps, cd playback). No, all things considered, 3DO made a lot of profits for 3DO company. Remember, they designed the hardware and licensed it to other companies, so 3DO itself made easy money. In that sense, it was a success.
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| I agree with you guys where ga,es went, Hawkins really pulled some strings at EA to get top notch games for the system at that end. The game library wasn't the problem. One thing that hurt the 3DO was also the price of the games, especially when people were hearing that the reason 3DO was a CD system was because the games were cheaper to manufacture, but in some cases the games were more expensive on the 3DO. This confused people as well, which again, did not help out the company at all! |
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It makes me wonder why 3DO would have stopped supporting the system. After all, the 3DO company was in the best financial position of all the 3DO players(they got money from licensing the hardware AND from software licensing, not to mention publishing).
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| Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| It makes me wonder why 3DO would have stopped supporting the system. After all, the 3DO company was in the best financial position of all the 3DO players(they got money from licensing the hardware AND from software licensing, not to mention publishing). |
Easy, 3DO as a company sold the rights to the machine when they sold the M2 to Matsushita. They should not have done that as I believe that the 3DO was actually gaining momentum when they sold it. The system could have lasted another year or two with support. |
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Interesting. I was under the impression that 3DO sold the rights to M2, but I didn't know that they also sold the 3DO rights as well.
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| Interesting. I was under the impression that 3DO sold the rights to M2, but I didn't know that they also sold the 3DO rights as well. |
Yeah, they were stupid for that. Just like when VM Labs sold the rights to NUON, they could have kept the encryption keys and released them, making it easier for homebrewers to do something with the machine. Too bad it didn't happen. At least some huge steps have been made for the 3DO finally. Beautiful, I tell you. |
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Sadly everything is money,so i think when 3DO doesnt make money you kill it, when m2 doesnt have a chance you kill it. Good for them they sold m2 before it was too late but i would really like to know what was thw problem with it, that make them cancel it.  |
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| Sadly everything is money,so i think when 3DO doesnt make money you kill it, when m2 doesnt have a chance you kill it. Good for them they sold m2 before it was too late but i would really like to know what was thw problem with it, that make them cancel it. |
Plain and simple; Matsushita was afraid of Sony. It sucks ass, but it is the sad truth. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:59 pm Post subject: Re: Trip Hawkins Killed the 3DO before it had a chance. |
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| T2KFreeker wrote: |
| The 3DO could have been such a big player in the industry, but damn, $700.00 for a videogame system! Why oh why did this happen? If the 3DO had been even $350.00 with a pack in game, it should have cleaned house as the system was so far ahead of it's time. |
If the price was lower, there probably would have been some more third party publishers interested in the 3DO, and there would have been some great games for it.
As it stands, the 3DO is a lot like the Jaguar. There's a lot of not so good games, some really good games, and only a handful of those really good games are not available on any other platform. |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:26 pm Post subject: Re: Trip Hawkins Killed the 3DO before it had a chance. |
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| MetaFox wrote: |
| T2KFreeker wrote: |
| The 3DO could have been such a big player in the industry, but damn, $700.00 for a videogame system! Why oh why did this happen? If the 3DO had been even $350.00 with a pack in game, it should have cleaned house as the system was so far ahead of it's time. |
If the price was lower, there probably would have been some more third party publishers interested in the 3DO, and there would have been some great games for it.
As it stands, the 3DO is a lot like the Jaguar. There's a lot of not so good games, some really good games, and only a handful of those really good games are not available on any other platform. |
Yeah, but the 3DO had some of the best versions of those games too. Look at Wing Commander III for a great example? Where else are you going to play Captain Quasar, Ice Breakers, and a proper version of the classic "D"? The Shockwave games rock on as well and Syndicate is awesome, nuff' said. Re, wait, forgot Road Rash.  |
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| 3DO made a lot of profits for 3DO company. |
Actually 3DO itself never turned a profit. Only the selling of the M2 technology brought 3DO out ot the red. Well, that and Trip Hawkins pumping his own money into the company. |
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