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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:10 pm    Post subject: React to the episode
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General discussion of your reaction to the episode.


Overall i thgouth it was a good episode.  It interesting to hear the sotry they fed the world of there survial.  how can Ben get that money why only 3.2 milliion?  how do thy explain Aaron's age?
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:12 pm    Post subject:
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Aarons Age= it's 2007 when the trial is going on
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:49 am    Post subject:
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A good episode.

The whole thing about only 8 people surviving the crash was a shocker.
I'm wondering whether the 6 came up with this cover story themselves  
or were they told by someone else that this is your story.

Sawyer and Hurley sharing a house - cool. Very Happy

I would be totally dissapointed if Miles whole gig was about blackmail.
I'm glad Locke gave him something to chew on before this episode
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And as for Kate and Aaron - the timeline for this is confusing.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:20 am    Post subject:
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hey, is the room where Ben is being kept the same room where Ben was keeping Anderson Cooper (Locke's father)??
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:50 am    Post subject:
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was it just me or did Kate's nanny look like Juliet's sister
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:10 am    Post subject:
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Aarons Age= it's 2007 when the trial is going on


yes but unless she had the kid while on Island he wouldnt be that old.  and they would know sh wasnt preggers before they crashed.
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I wondered about when Kate would have got pregnant. Though she could easily have been pregnant before the crash and no-one know. It's not like they would administer a pregnancy test before taking her into custody and your not automatically huge when your one month pregnant.

Also, no, I didn't think the nanny looked even slightly like Juliet's sister. Sorry Lexi, but double checking the cast list before I shot you down, the nanny is played by Tania Kahale, while Juliet's sister is played by Robin Weigert (Lostpedia).
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:29 am    Post subject:
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Sorry, I'm a grammar freak and have to apologise for writing 'your' twice instead of 'you're'
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:53 am    Post subject:
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I wondered about when Kate would have got pregnant. Though she could easily have been pregnant before the crash and no-one know. It's not like they would administer a pregnancy test before taking her into custody and your not automatically huge when your one month pregnant.

Also, no, I didn't think the nanny looked even slightly like Juliet's sister. Sorry Lexi, but double checking the cast list before I shot you down, the nanny is played by Tania Kahale, while Juliet's sister is played by Robin Weigert (Lostpedia).



even if she was preggers and no one knew Aaron would still be to old.  He was born soon after they crashed.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:54 am    Post subject:
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Further still, why would anyone question her honesty if the rest of the Oceanic 6 said it was hers...
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:23 am    Post subject:
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Great episode.....but opened up a lot of qustions for me....PLEASE PROVIDE ANSWERS IF YOU CAN!  

Lost questions:

1. Who was Kate's nanny?
2. Where did Kate get the big house?
3. Is Kate living with Ben?
4. Is the "he" Kate refers to only referring to the baby Aaron?  Or is there a significant other also?
5. Where is Claire?  Dead?
6. Why doesn't Jack want to see Aaron? Or is there another "he" that Jack doesn't want to see?
7. Do people know that the baby is Aaron?  Or did Kate pretend she was pregnant and had her own baby to protect Aaron from Ben or other people?
8. Did Kate pretend that the baby was Sawyer's in order to protect him? (Aaron)
9. Does Jack know that Claire was/is his sister?  Does Jack know Aaron is his nephew?
10. Is Jack flustered just because he wanted a fresh start with Kate and now she's got this baby?
11. Kate was never called an "Oceanic 6", was she?  The airline probably wouldn't want to associate with her?
12. As part of getting off the island and watching over Aaron, they changed the story about what a hero Kate was (rather than Jack).  Does that tick Jack off that he doesn't get the credit?
13. Kate didn't want to serve ANY jail time because she had a responsibility to watch Aaron?

That's all from me...... FOR NOW.

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ok, I will answer these to the best of my knowledge SOME MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS!!!!!

1. Kate's nanny is just that, a nanny
2. Kate got the money from Oceanic airlines
3. No, Kate is NOT living with Ben
4. No, Aaron is the only "he" that Kate is refering too
5.
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Claire is either dead or still on the island


6.Jake does not want to see Aaron because he knows that it is not Kate's baby (obviously) and because he knows that Kate did something involving Aaron that she shouldn't have done.
7. People think that the baby is hers.  She pretended that she was pregnant so that she would bring Aaron back with her without any suspicion. Her mom even thinks that the baby is hers.
8.
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No. No one, to my knowledge, knows of Sawyers existence.  He does NOT get off of the island


9. I believe that Jack knows that Aaron is his nephew, but I'm not 100% positive
10. I would say that Jack can not accept the fact the Kate has Claire's baby
11. No, she is part of the "6"
12. No.  He made that story up so that Kate wouldn't get put in jail. I think he is fine not having the credit.
13. Yes, I believe that to be true.  Also she had to  watch over him.

Hope that helps!!!!

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Great episode.....but opened up a lot of qustions for me....PLEASE PROVIDE ANSWERS IF YOU CAN!  

Lost questions:

1. Who was Kate's nanny?
2. Where did Kate get the big house?
3. Is Kate living with Ben?
4. Is the "he" Kate refers to only referring to the baby Aaron?  Or is there a significant other also?
5. Where is Claire?  Dead?
6. Why doesn't Jack want to see Aaron? Or is there another "he" that Jack doesn't want to see?
7. Do people know that the baby is Aaron?  Or did Kate pretend she was pregnant and had her own baby to protect Aaron from Ben or other people?
8. Did Kate pretend that the baby was Sawyer's in order to protect him? (Aaron)
9. Does Jack know that Claire was/is his sister?  Does Jack know Aaron is his nephew?
10. Is Jack flustered just because he wanted a fresh start with Kate and now she's got this baby?
11. Kate was never called an "Oceanic 6", was she?  The airline probably wouldn't want to associate with her?
12. As part of getting off the island and watching over Aaron, they changed the story about what a hero Kate was (rather than Jack).  Does that tick Jack off that he doesn't get the credit?
13. Kate didn't want to serve ANY jail time because she had a responsibility to watch Aaron?

That's all from me...... FOR NOW.

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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:24 pm    Post subject:
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Ok here's a thing, if Kate is now the hero(ine) odf the O6 then why did the someone in S3 finale refer to Jack as the hero twice over ?
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:34 pm    Post subject:
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Well, aren't they all 'heroes' for surviving a horrific plane crash?
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Over on the Lostcast website Spencer commented that he thought Desmond's vision might not have been of Claire and Aaron getting on the helicopter, but himself. That he lied to Charlie so he would sacrifice himself.

That seems very plausible and would be right in line with why Claire potentially never makes it off the island.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:22 pm    Post subject:
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Chris in Fort Worth wrote:
Over on the Lostcast website Spencer commented that he thought Desmond's vision might not have been of Claire and Aaron getting on the helicopter, but himself. That he lied to Charlie so he would sacrifice himself.

That seems very plausible and would be right in line with why Claire potentially never makes it off the island.


That is very plausible. It's not like Desmond though, but no doubt we'll find out either way.
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:01 pm    Post subject:
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shiftybench wrote:
Chris in Fort Worth wrote:
Over on the Lostcast website Spencer commented that he thought Desmond's vision might not have been of Claire and Aaron getting on the helicopter, but himself. That he lied to Charlie so he would sacrifice himself.

That seems very plausible and would be right in line with why Claire potentially never makes it off the island.


That is very plausible. It's not like Desmond though, but no doubt we'll find out either way.


I agree it's not like Desmond. He saw Penny coming to the island and he still changed the future to save Charlie. I think it would be a major character change in him if he did that so he'd get off the island. Something else might change the future now so that Claire and Aaron don't get off together (which they obviously don't) but I believe that Desmond told Charlie the truth about what he saw.
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:48 pm    Post subject:
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I enjoyed the episode, havent had time to re-watch it yet...they spent a little too much time on Kate's trial as opposed to the progression of the Island storyline

I knew from Kate and Claire's interaction and comparing it with the Ben-Sayid scenario like Matt Lafferty did

7/10 for me
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From what we know Desmond has to be there to see the future. He hasn't seen the future when he's not been "looking at the event" taking place. So if Claire and Aaron get on the 'copter then he must return to the island. Interestingly this was one flash-forward that we never saw (we never saw Charlie dying either but that was because they we keeping that for the finale).

One scenario could be that Des gets to the freighter, finds out it is not Pennys boat (just as Charlie predicted) but is in fact her fathers boat and so he sent back to to the island or flees back to the island.

Claire and Aaron then get on the 'copter and he waves them goodbye. Claire meets with some accident, maybe she falls out of the 'copter during 'turbulence' and Jack (who is also on the flight) has to choose between saving Aaron and Claire. He choses to save Aaron and Claire dies when she falls into the time vortex (perhaps she appears somewhere else in time or space like that old tv show Quantum Leap).

Later Jack finds out that Claire was (is) his sister and goes bonkers.
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:35 am    Post subject:
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I dont know...
Thats a bit much...
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one possiblity is that for smoe reason either they only have room for one more on the copter and Claire begs Kate to take Aaron.  Or kate is smuggling Aaron ontp the copter becuse they won't let Claire off.
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suburbanhood wrote:
one possiblity is that for smoe reason either they only have room for one more on the copter and Claire begs Kate to take Aaron.  Or kate is smuggling Aaron ontp the copter becuse they won't let Claire off.

But in that instance wouldnt kate let claire take her place on the copter rather than take a baby that she doesnt really want?
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