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andyhurley

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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:10 am    Post subject: Kate's light sentence
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As many have mentioned I found it strange that Kate got off so light just because her mum wouldn't testify.

I can understand that maybe they didn't have much evidence apart from her confession to her mum and this was a plea bargain, but what about her other offences?

This got me thinking about Kate's backstory a bit (need to go back and watch them all really but I don't have the time). In one flashback we see her robbing a bank vault to retreive a model plane which we also see her desperate to find (at the bottom of the lake) on the island. In another we see her burying said model with a friend. We assume she is being chased by the feds for the robbery but we later find out she killed her dad and that is the real reason she is being chased. Please correct me if I've got this wrong or missed important details.

First thought, maybe the feds don't know about the robbery so the trial is just for the murder.

Second thought, have we got this all wrong and the robbery is a flash forward in some way? Not really likely as it doesn't explain why she had, or more especially, wanted the plane on the island.

Third thought, is the model plane some sort of key to a circular time paradox in her story. It is significant as it reminds her of her time on the island (that she hasn't experienced yet!) This could tie in with Faraday's card experiment, is he trying to 'remember' which three cards they were from a previous experience of the same timeline (a bit like Desmond's flashes).

Anyway, just my ramblings, feel free to pull them apart.
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Chris in Fort Worth

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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:26 pm    Post subject:
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the model plane belonged to her childhood sweetheart, the dr. that was killed helping her escape the hospital when she tried to see her sick mother...I believe it is purely sentimental.

Also, during the settlement negotiations between the prosecutors and Kate's attorney I am fairly sure they specifically referred to the bank robbery.

cool thought though.
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:39 pm    Post subject:
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There is no mention of the bank robbery or the incident that got her
childhood sweet heart killed.

In the court scene the charges read out were:-

Fraud, Arson, Assault on a federal officer, Assault with a deadly weapon,
Grand Larceny, Grand theft auto, Murder first degree.
These all relate to Kate killing her father.

In the scene with the attourneys only "Rescuing her mother from an abusive husband." is mentioned.

So basically no-one knows about her bank robbery or her sweet hearts
killing.

Bad writing by the producers ? - Possibly
Wanting to move the story along quickly ? - Most definately.
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Chris in Fort Worth

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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:06 pm    Post subject:
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my bad...thanks for the correction Tahir
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject:
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Maybe there is some involvement by unseen powers who do not want Kate to be imprisoned?
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:37 pm    Post subject:
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AphroditeMF wrote:
Maybe there is some involvement by unseen powers who do not want Kate to be imprisoned?


I think this is highly likely ... Abaddon? Avellino? Widmore? Hanso?
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject:
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Yeah, court scenes in TV shows don't make sense in general.

First off, character witnesses are only brought in during the sentencing phase of a trial, after the defendent has been found guilty or not guilty. It does not matter what type of person you are, just whether you are guilty or not. Sentencing is when they care whether you are redeemable or not.

Second, if the only proof the prosecutor had was first hand testimony from the Mom it is doubtful that it would have been brought to trial - let alone the massive manhunt across the world to find her.

Third, why did she not face criminal charges in Australia from her involvement in that bank robbery.

I love the show, but the court scene made no sense and kinda lost the track for me. It was hard to get back into the episode after the court stuff. Had to make my brain go 'Lalalalalala' to drown out the unbelievability of it.
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:28 pm    Post subject:
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Obviously, courtroom realism is of the same level as LOST's medical veracity.
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Chris in Fort Worth

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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:35 am    Post subject:
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Hopefully, as has been said by TBTB, the amount of discourse re: the believability, or lack thereof, for certain segments of the show will have an impact on the writers and encourage them to be more diligent when writing future episodes.
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