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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:07 pm Post subject: STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS DISCUSSION |
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... To honor the inspiration for this site!
Feel free to post whatever ideas, comments, etc. you have after watching the latest LOST ep "The Other Woman".
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Good idea...based on the previous three episode forums we're averaging about 20-21 topics per episode...surely the thread for each one would still be easy enough to follow by consolidating most episode specific comments into one forum.
Tonight's episode is Juliet-centric...what do you think is her fate? Will we find out tonight? Are we flashing forward or backward?
I've seen a lot of speculation that Juliet might die tonight...not sure how I feel about that...I still don't 100% trust her, I want to, but I don't. I just hope we don't have another episode of her making Jack look like an idiot for trusting her.
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| Chris in Fort Worth wrote: |
| Good idea...based on the previous three episode forums we're averaging about 20-21 topics per episode...surely the thread for each one would still be easy enough to follow by consolidating most episode specific comments into one forum. |
I am going to try to "break out" interesting topics from this main thread of posts & see how the forum responds ... That way we get the best of both worlds where, people can post multiple ideas & cover multiple topics in a single post, while still allowing for a "deep dive" thread on a single topic.
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Good episode...hard to beat last week, and the Widmore reveal was a bit anti-climatic due to it being discussed a lot already...
However, the episode did seam to tie together the direction of this season and the series overall.
Ben actually may be the good guy, but he's still a maniacal nut job. Loved the scene when he took Juliet to see Goodwin's body: "Oh, I should have brought his WIFE?" - so creepy. What a great character...and his bi-polar behavior during the dinner scene was fun to watch also.
So, Widmore is the big baddie afterall...does he mean to turn our island into a Jurassic Park for the miracle seeking crowd?
Does anyone else see a similarity developing between Heroes (a much inferior show) and Lost in regards to the generational threads? Is it possible that we will see Sun's father be involved in the plot as well? What about Jack's dad? Am I reaching?
Finally, Juliet will NEVER make it off the island. I have no doubt stalker Ben would just as soon kill her than let her get too far away from his reach.
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The interesting twist for me was the therapist turning up in the rain. I assumed smokey but Jack could see her too soI assumed she was real. I was fully expecting her to kill herself and that to be Juliets guilt trip.
Clearly we were meant to think Juliet was off island at the start. But I agree she will not make it off. Another reason for Jack to want to get back.
Ben is a psycho. I'm not sure he is the good guy. He's just a different bad guy. His plan was for Juliet to kill Faraday and Lewis so they couldn't make the gas inert.
Widmore is the bad guy who wants to get to the island, Ben is the bad guy who wants to stop him. The Losties are stuck in the middle.
Other random thought, how did Ben know about Faraday and Lewis's plan ? Is the therapist dead and can Ben talk to ghosts a la Miles ? Did Jacob tell him ?
I liked this episode does that make me a shipper ? It moved the on island story along and we now have a new hatch.
I don't like Jin speaking English, it sounds weird.
Juliet and Jack == Jaliets or Jackets or Juliacks ???
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I think that the therapist was actually sent out by Miles. Think about it she said that Ben is exactly where he wants to be who else said those exact words, Miles told Ben he would take care of Charlotte what better way to do that then gas the island. Plus if Ben covets Juliet as much as it is suggested would he really kill her too? It just looks like are ghost hunter and whisper to the whispers.
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| Mark B wrote: |
| Juliet and Jack == Jaliets or Jackets or Juliacks ??? |
I think the accepted term is Jacket.
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Any sites to a sound analysis on the whispers at the start yet? |
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| Any sites to a sound analysis on the whispers at the start yet? |
The Whispers thread on the Fuselage has some early observations up I think.
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| Any sites to a sound analysis on the whispers at the start yet? |
I definitely heard the whispers say "Juliet" (... something like "Watch out, Juliet!") in that opening scene, right before Harper appears.
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I think Ben knew about what Faraday and Lewis were doing due to Miles "3.2 Million Dollars" thing. |
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My initial reactions after watching the ep ...
Nice flash-forward fakeout to start Juliet's flashback! I was wondering why a therapist would come into her office directly from outside ...
Tempest Hatch = Power station ... I am super confused! Why does a power station need poisonous gas? How is there an infrastructure system on the Island to release the gas on the Island (as seen in the "Purge")? How is that gas involved in the creation of electricity on the Island? If you make the gas inert, does the Island lose power? No more electricity for New Otherton?
Ben is an absolute PSYCHO in this ep's flashback!
Juliet's flashback reminds me of the story of Persephone ... I agree with everyone else ... Juliet WILL NOT be geting off the Island. My guess is she is gonna die sometime this season. I'm thinking she'll sacrifice herself to save Jack.
Ben vs. Widmore ... Not the biggest reveal. More of a confirmation of what most people were already speculating ... So it's the Others vs. Widmore with the Losties & Desmond stuck in the middle. What do people think will happen to Desmond? His off-Island future may play a significant role in the Losties trying to get back to the Island ...
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@Chris in Fort Worth,
I agree, Ben is one of the 2 best characters (Sayid being the other). Both are complex and tortured individuals. And too, I hope Ben does turn out to be the "Good Guy". Irony=entertainment.
Also, how did Widmore amass his $$$$$$$ ? Was he a DHARMA guy that stole some of their secrets when he left? More likely, he's just a generic evil rich guy.
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What if Smokey was Harper and Ben had nothing to do with it? Smokey is a security system - perhaps it was trying to run another "purge" on the island by releasing the smoke. Farraday and Charlotte were off to stop it, so Smokey appeared to Juliet to get her to stop them... |
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i love lost but this episode was just faaaaaar under the standard.in the middle of watching it i felt like i´m actully watching some stupid soap opera. big dissapointment for me:-(( |
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I just wanted to say that I was largely disappointed by this episode – though I totally accepted this was probably a lot to do with last weeks' classic.
However, after listening to the guys podcast it got me thinking about so many things. This is one of the best podcasts that I can remember for some time and really a return to form. I nearly always enjoy the show, but you were getting close to Lockdown-quality here.
Thanks guys,
Scott
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totally agree with u, scott. |
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Episodes like The Other Woman are usually slow burners and it's not until you sit and think about it (or listen to LOSTcasts) that you realise how much happened.
Episodes like The Constant are in your face the whole time so are always rated highly.
This is why polls seldom reflect the true level of an episode. People vote within hours of watching the episode then later realise that they should have rated the episode differently.
And no I'm not arguing that The Constant was not better than The Other Woman, I just think they were different.
I liked both, The Constant more but not by the margin that the polls indicate.
The worst episode of LOST is better than the best episode of anything else on tv right now -- except maybe Stranger in a Strange land but even that watched on DVD isn't that bad.
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