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| Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:58 am Post subject: STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS DISCUSSION |
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@ ALL
In honor of the old comments section here is a chance to just give general reactions and volley ideas around about any and every aspect of the show.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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Miles just lost me...no room for money hungry extortionists on the island, imo.
Love Sawyer and Hurley as roomies...
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Miles is obviously a douche,
Also eight survived... to me that means Oceanic 6 + Micheal and Walt?
Or are they saying two people died and Michael and Walt are unaccounted for?
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| Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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1. Aaron is with Kate in the future; saw that coming think it has something to do with what Ben said to Sayid last episode.
2. Ben has Miles right where he wants him and will take Miles deal but screw him over in the end.
3. Kate's trial takes place in at least 2007 based on Aaron's age; to me that means this whole Island\Freighter fiasco is going to take quite a while.
4. What's up with Farraday?
5. One of the best episodes in quite a while.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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AARON?! What happens to Claire?
Nice casa Kate...
Jack said 8 survived, but 2 could have 'died' on the island.
Is Michael actually returning to the show? What gives?
I was not looking forward to another Kate-centric episode, but was really pleased with this one as it went on. It really got me interested in the stories of Kate, Jack & Sawyer again and made me let go of the endless questions about the island for a moment.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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Aaron blindsided me completely...now that I think about I think someone mentioned this on the forum recently, and I pretty much scoffed at the notion...typical, as soon as I disregard a notion I end up wrong.
AARON!
That really gets me...I see Jack's guilt in the future coming directly out of this...certainly the fact Claire and Jack are half-siblings will now play a huge role in his guilt over failing to protect her from whatever becomes of her...for this reason he can't face his 'nephew' Aaron.
Excellent.
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a. Jack obviously was telling a pre-arranged story. In his version, eight survived but it was clear two died.
b. Didn't see the Aaron thing coming. But I did see the whole trial let off thing. Why was the trial in California when Kate committed her crimes elsewhere.
c. Why would Jack not want to see Aaron ? What happens to Claire ?
d. Miles and his money grubbing ways. Whats up with that ? Why $3.2 ? How does BEn have so much money ? Why does Miles think Ben can get it ?
e. Locke has gone mean. How long could you hold a grenade in your mouth ?
f. What has happened to the 'copter ?
g. Why can Faraday only remember three cards ? Did Charlottee deal out three or is it mre complex than that. I assumed Faraday could not remember three cards he had seen and she had turned over.
h. The way Faraday was looking at the Dharma stuff looked like he'd not seen the logo before.
i. Locke is a sucker, conned by Sawyer.
j. Hurley was scooby-doo'd ? What does that mean ?
k. The epi as a whole was not that great. Probably the worst o the seaon s far. Some nuggets but not a rollercoaster ride.
i. The promo for next week had some interesting things in. Looks like a total mind-bender.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:35 am Post subject: Not bad |
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I too was not looking forward to a Kate episode, but I ended up liking this one. I need to rewatch it, but first reactions are:
1. Kate was talking about Aaron in the season finale from S03.
2. Eggtown refers to the Other's village? I dunno.
3. Why would Kate not want her Mom to meet Aaron? Maybe because she'd know there's no family resemblance?? It seemed like Mom's betrayal part wasn't the motivation.
4. Kate's rich due to...a settlement with the airline?
5. Can Kate not have kids? Or did she just know that she wasn't pregnant? Who else would know? I'd have thought Ben would have been able to find that out before Season 3.
6. Why is Kate being tried in CA? Isn't she wanted for Federal crimes or crimes in her home state?
7. Miles is a douche. Locke is crazy and worse than Ben. The rest of the Locke crew have become the new Others.
8. I'm assuming Aaron isn't one of the 6. But he might be, because wouldn't the press have noticed Kate hadn't been pregnant since she got back.
9 Where did Ben get his money? |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:10 am Post subject: |
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no, 8 survived, but 2 died. That is what Jack was about to say before Kate cut him off
| JackedupLockedown wrote: |
Miles is obviously a douche,
Also eight survived... to me that means Oceanic 6 + Micheal and Walt?
Or are they saying two people died and Michael and Walt are unaccounted for? |
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If Sun delivers her baby before returning to civilization, and Jin and Sun complete the Oceanic 6, then the 8 that survived might include her baby and Aaron. The babies would be included in a survival count, but not necessarily
a hyped, media driven list like the Oceanic 6.
Can someone tell me wtf the title "Egg Town" refers to? |
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Honestly I'm not sure what to say, but this must be the strongest four episode run Lost has had since the beginning.
I say the Aaron thing coming, but it's such a brilliant move none the less. The moment Jack got uncomfortable about it going to Kate's house. The question (amongst the many) is what happens in between Kate's trial and Jack going off the rails that sees someone else come into Kate's life?
Could it be that Locke is the one whose funeral it was and he has something to do with why Kate is caring for Aaron and not Claire? It would explain why Kate seemed so disgusted by the idea that she would go to Locke's funeral. Still, that would mean that Locke would have to be one of the Oceanic 6 that now seems to include:
Jack
Hurley
Sayid
Kate
Aaron
+ Locke - if this theory is right.
Does anyone else think that Aaron must be included as one of the 6? It would be strange not to - they're not, after all, the Oceanic 6 and 1/2.
Anyway, Lost continues to astound me. Consider me a Man of Faith.
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I just remembered that I had a hardcore theory last year about why Locke wasn't the man in the box because of the beam and the suicide being very difficult for a man in a wheelchair (assuming he's back in one off island). That would debunk the above slightly...
That said, I also read someone say that in the OLP that Cuse and Lindelhoff said 2 of the 6 would be hard to explain. Now I don't know what that means to but it could mean 2 are Aaron and a walking John Locke.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:11 am Post subject: on island births... |
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the child(ren) born on the island would not be counted as "Oceanic 6". As someone has mentioned before, the term "Oceanic 6" sounds like a media name given to the group. It would be used in newspapers, magazines, and tv. The reason that the children born on the island won't count is because they would not have been listed on the flight manifest, nor would Oceanic have any claim in them. This is, to some extent, the reason any "other" could get off the island and not be counted as one of the six (Ben).
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Good point Mike...not that it's relevant, but I wonder if there's any potential at all for the tail section kids or Cindy to become part of the '6'?
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I could be mistaken, I need to see the preview again, but after The Economist, didn't the preview of Eggtown say that another one of the Oceanic 6 would be revieled? I don't believe that Aaron is one the 6, judging by the comments in Eggtown about how Kate saved 5 other people (Jack, Hurley, Sayid and two more). I highly doubt that Locke is one of the 6 as he has no desire to get off the island. Then again, I think that he did mention something about being the islands protector, so maybe he goes off of the island to continue to protect it. However, looking at the grand scheme of things I think that this is very unlikely. Especially when you add Charlie "swiming" to Hurley in the interigation room with the note on his hand that, "They need help." Combine that with Abbadon's question to Hurley asking if they are still alive. I think that Abbadon is quesitoning Hurley in this istance about the Freighties, who obviously have knowledge that is crutial to whomever Abbadon is working for (since they know information about the Losties). |
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I just rewatched the promo and it does say, "Nothing is certain, except for the oceanic six and the next one who will be revealed." They can't be claiming that Kate is being revealed as one of the 6 but they must since I don't think they are saying Aaron is one the 6... but maybe they are. |
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I think that saying that another of the six would be revealed is a shout-out to the fans who said Kate couldn't be one of the 6 because she would be in jail. There were alot of fans speculating that Kate wasn't one of the 6...This episode is saying that she is...Or at least that's what I think 
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Anyone notice the painting in Aaron's room? It has a person/child on a bike, houses that look like Otherville and a hand holding the 6 of clubs! |
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Also, the Oceanic 6 are lying about everything else that happened on the island so why not the pregnancy thing too? Who would know the difference? Something must have happened to Claire, I don't think she would ever part from her son otherwise. |
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I don't think that Aaron is one of the Oceanic 6, just because it doesn't make as much sense for a young child to be named as part of the media term "Oceanic 6"
Also, if Juliet is right and has been telling the truth, unless Sun gets off the island BEFORE she gives birth, before the 3rd trimester I think, she'll die on the island with her baby.
I like the idea that it was revealed that Kate is one of the Oceanic 6, since we saw her trial, and she's not hiding out under a fake name. |
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'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this but i didn't get a money grubbing vibe from Miles. I was sure that the whole conversation was a coded conversation because Kate was at the door. The whole " you have 2 days". He was telling him something was coming in 2 days and Ben tells Miles to wait at least a week. I think this is another one of those code like "Tell my sister I love her." Same thing with the 3.2 Million. That was a heading not a $$ amount. Not sure but didn't he tell Michael to stay on a heading of 3. something???? Anyway that's what I got from it let me know if you think I'm way off base. Thanks |
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| 'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this but i didn't get a money grubbing vibe from Miles. |
Hard to say, because in the flashback that we meet Miles he's kinda up to no good with the mother of a dead person, taking her money in return for putting his soul to rest. Then he uses his ability to contact the dead to find out where the ghost was keeping his money and drug stash.
Admittedly he gives the mother a discount, handing her back half his fee, but he's still walking out with a dirty wod of cash. Mile's motivation and character aren't clear – though I do like the idea that's he's extorting Ben.
Either way, I would say he has a small money grubbing vibe to him.
Oh, and the interaction with Ben regarding Charlotte suggests to me that Miles means what he says. |
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| 'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this but i didn't get a money grubbing vibe from Miles. I was sure that the whole conversation was a coded conversation because Kate was at the door. The whole " you have 2 days". He was telling him something was coming in 2 days and Ben tells Miles to wait at least a week. I think this is another one of those code like "Tell my sister I love her." Same thing with the 3.2 Million. That was a heading not a $$ amount. Not sure but didn't he tell Michael to stay on a heading of 3. something???? Anyway that's what I got from it let me know if you think I'm way off base. Thanks |
I've seen this comment in another thread, but just want to add fuel to this Miles-Ben conspiracy theory ...
- 3.2 Million can be represented as 32x100,000 --> 32e5
- Ben told Michael to keep the boat on bearing 325 |
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